it was between the president's speech and michelle obama obama's dress. i want to know everything jason, because when you won -- when you got the dress four years ago, you said you were eating domino's pizza when you got the call. last night, where were you, what were you doing how did you find snout. >> last night i was still in my studio designing a fall collection that i'm presenting in less than three weeks. so i was actually with my team. it was really nice to sort of be there with everyone that worked on the dress. >> were you glued to the set waiting? didn't it seem that you had to wait forever to see what she was watching. >> we started at 8:00. of course there were people watching earlier. i was like from last experience, she comes out a little bit later. and it was -- you know, we kept waiting. of course, the screen kept buffering. then she came out. >> yes. >> we were like -- when is it going -- when are we going to see? the camera missed a moment. when i saw it i was floored. i just couldn't believe that you know, she chose me for the second t